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i saw a ghost and shadow people
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(08-19-2014, 06:25 AM)Laurie Wrote:
(08-19-2014, 05:54 AM)thevoid Wrote: Laurie I am not here to battle and I stated my beliefs and your links only prove others beliefs there isn't proof of any of it except eyewitness accounts and I have a lot of personal experience along with people I know experiences for over 40 yrs. Most your links are to money makers claiming they know what their talking about. Who would you believe a average person not making anything from this or someone trying to make a dollar from yah?

ALL websites have to cover their overheads, even discussion forums!

And, furthermore, if you are not here to battle with anyone, you shouldn't be making sweeping statements about what people know or don't know about a topic. I too have had paranormal experiences, for all of my life. You don't have the monopoly on any one particular phenomenon; and as you say, there is little actual evidence (altho there is much circumstantial evidence) to prove an event one way or the other.

Had you not made such a sweeping statement, I would not have had to defend myself. Had you done a lot more research on the topic, and on me, you would have seen that I know quite a bit on the subject, and have posted about my experiences (some here, and a lot on other sites); not to mention that I run two of my own discussion site also, on the subjects relating to the paranormal and other physics anomalies!

Do your homework, and get your ducks in a row before you spout off insults in future; you might save yourself a lot of time and energy in the long run!

Actually your right about that my view was thrown out there to cover my own experiences and its based on my beliefs so I guess I am just throwing out there as a sweeping statement as you and others are doing to me in away. Because it works both ways and your failing to see that but you sure did point it out using your own statement which I and we both can agree on (bias views will come up) and we don't have proof but our experiences. The same with your links its based on their beliefs of what is going on and ghost and demons entities come out. But what I am saying is I have dimensional traveled with a dimensional entity and it was not a pleasant experience. I have also been raped by them, hurt by them and saved by them all my life so their not just passing through lol and their real not spirits. but again this is my view and others are not going to agree.
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#12
(08-19-2014, 06:38 AM)thevoid Wrote:
(08-19-2014, 06:25 AM)Laurie Wrote:
(08-19-2014, 05:54 AM)thevoid Wrote: Laurie I am not here to battle and I stated my beliefs and your links only prove others beliefs there isn't proof of any of it except eyewitness accounts and I have a lot of personal experience along with people I know experiences for over 40 yrs. Most your links are to money makers claiming they know what their talking about. Who would you believe a average person not making anything from this or someone trying to make a dollar from yah?

ALL websites have to cover their overheads, even discussion forums!

And, furthermore, if you are not here to battle with anyone, you shouldn't be making sweeping statements about what people know or don't know about a topic. I too have had paranormal experiences, for all of my life. You don't have the monopoly on any one particular phenomenon; and as you say, there is little actual evidence (altho there is much circumstantial evidence) to prove an event one way or the other.

Had you not made such a sweeping statement, I would not have had to defend myself. Had you done a lot more research on the topic, and on me, you would have seen that I know quite a bit on the subject, and have posted about my experiences (some here, and a lot on other sites); not to mention that I run two of my own discussion site also, on the subjects relating to the paranormal and other physics anomalies!

Do your homework, and get your ducks in a row before you spout off insults in future; you might save yourself a lot of time and energy in the long run!

Actually your right about that my view was thrown out there to cover my own experiences and its based on my beliefs so I guess I am just throwing out there as a sweeping statement as you and others are doing to me in away. Because it works both ways and your failing to see that but you sure did point it out using your own statement which I and we both can agree on (bias views will come up) and we don't have proof but our experiences. The same with your links its based on their beliefs of what is going on and ghost and demons entities come out. But what I am saying is I have dimensional traveled with a dimensional entity and it was not a pleasant experience. I have also been raped by them, hurt by them and saved by them all my life so their not just passing through lol and their real not spirits. but again this is my view and others are not going to agree.

thevoid: Thanks for the Olive branch Smile

I just want to add tho, that many of us (perhaps even all of us) have traveled with dimensional entities; and not all of them are bad. I've always had good experiences, so perhaps, like the ubiquitous alien species there are many 'races' of inter dimensional species, and unfortunately you have sometimes met up with the lower ether ones. I'm sorry to hear that.

Shalom! Smile
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#13
(08-19-2014, 06:51 AM)Laurie Wrote:
(08-19-2014, 06:38 AM)thevoid Wrote:
(08-19-2014, 06:25 AM)Laurie Wrote:
(08-19-2014, 05:54 AM)thevoid Wrote: Laurie I am not here to battle and I stated my beliefs and your links only prove others beliefs there isn't proof of any of it except eyewitness accounts and I have a lot of personal experience along with people I know experiences for over 40 yrs. Most your links are to money makers claiming they know what their talking about. Who would you believe a average person not making anything from this or someone trying to make a dollar from yah?

ALL websites have to cover their overheads, even discussion forums!

And, furthermore, if you are not here to battle with anyone, you shouldn't be making sweeping statements about what people know or don't know about a topic. I too have had paranormal experiences, for all of my life. You don't have the monopoly on any one particular phenomenon; and as you say, there is little actual evidence (altho there is much circumstantial evidence) to prove an event one way or the other.

Had you not made such a sweeping statement, I would not have had to defend myself. Had you done a lot more research on the topic, and on me, you would have seen that I know quite a bit on the subject, and have posted about my experiences (some here, and a lot on other sites); not to mention that I run two of my own discussion site also, on the subjects relating to the paranormal and other physics anomalies!

Do your homework, and get your ducks in a row before you spout off insults in future; you might save yourself a lot of time and energy in the long run!

Actually your right about that my view was thrown out there to cover my own experiences and its based on my beliefs so I guess I am just throwing out there as a sweeping statement as you and others are doing to me in away. Because it works both ways and your failing to see that but you sure did point it out using your own statement which I and we both can agree on (bias views will come up) and we don't have proof but our experiences. The same with your links its based on their beliefs of what is going on and ghost and demons entities come out. But what I am saying is I have dimensional traveled with a dimensional entity and it was not a pleasant experience. I have also been raped by them, hurt by them and saved by them all my life so their not just passing through lol and their real not spirits. but again this is my view and others are not going to agree.

thevoid: Thanks for the Olive branch Smile

I just want to add tho, that many of us (perhaps even all of us) have traveled with dimensional entities; and not all of them are bad. I've always had good experiences, so perhaps, like the ubiquitous alien species there are many 'races' of inter dimensional species, and unfortunately you have sometimes met up with the lower ether ones. I'm sorry to hear that.

Shalom! Smile

Yes I have had bad experiences but also I have had very good pleasant ones and the fact i am here today is because of one saving my life many times. There are times ones life can be put upside down though and that is when bones end up missing on x-rays like my toe and they can't find it it looks broken off. Easy to explain away but what isn't is when I have a body part that needs removing won't get into personal details and the surgeon sets up an appointment and another doctor asks me if its been removed because they can't find my organ. Its there though it was just moved.I look forward to reading about yours and others experiences. I am here not to battle but to make friends and discuss these topics which is right up my alley along with cryptics that I have run into which I will be posting about as well.
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